May 23, 2024

Nörenberg – Ziemer Marriage

Michael Nörenberg (c. 1840-1895) and Louise Schröder (c. 1845-1909) were the parents of Konstantin Nörenberg. Michael/Michał was first married to Louise/Ludwika Ziemer.

Perhaps Michael’s marriage to Louise Ziemer will lead to a greater understanding of his early life.

Michael’s First Marriage

The first place to look for a marriage record is in the town where Michael was born. However, no birth record has been discovered (to date). As discussed in a previous post, the majority of the birth and none of the marriage records from the Brzeziny parish exist.

Therefore, one must look for evidence of the marriage of Michael Nörenberg and Louise/Ludwika Ziemer in other documents.

Julianna Nörenberg – Birth

This baptism/birth record of a Nörenberg child survives in a Lublin parish book:¹

1864 Birth Record of Julianna Nörenberg

Information in this record:

#193 registered at Lublin, 8th July 1864, 12 p.m.
Father: Michał Nörenberg, farmer, age 22, living in Kaczanów in Niezabitów commune,
In the presence of Marcin [Martin] Zimmer, age 21, and Jan Nörenberg, age 23, farmers, the first living in Kaczanów, the second, in Bielsko
Female child: Julianna, born in Kaczanów on 1st day this month and year, at 6 p.m.
Mother: the father’s wife, Ludwika née Zimerów [feminine name-ending], age 22
Baptism date: today [8 July 1864]
Godparents: the witnesses and Elżbieta Neumann, the farmer’s wife from Bielsko

Is this the same Michael that married Louise Schröder in 1883?

This Michael would have been born about 1842. Previously, I proposed Michael’s birthyear as 1840. Because no birth record for Michael exists, we must gather a lot of evidence before we claim a specific birthdate for him. This could be the same man.

This child was born in the Niezabitów commune, Lublin. Michael’s death record listed his birthplace as Parish of Brzeziny, Łódź. These 2 places are about 100 miles apart. But Michael Nörenberg lived and died even farther east, in Volhynia. So it is possible that this child was born somewhere in between. These 2 Michaels could be the same men.

“The father’s wife, Ludwika née Zimer …” means that this couple was married before July 8, 1864.

Who are Marcin/Martin Zimmer and Jan Nörenberg? Are they brothers of the child’s parents? These relationships must be investigated.

Emilia Nörenberg – Birth

1866 Birth Record of Emilia Nörenberg²

The entire page of this record book is a mess with circles and re-numbering of entries; there are no headings at the top of the page. However, this information is gleaned:

Registered Bielsk.
Father: Michał Nörenberg, 24, of Bielsko
Witnesses: Glib Grams, 38, and August Frohlich, 33, _____
Female child
Born at Bielsko, 31 August. Baptized 3 September [1864].
Mother: Ludwika Ziemerów
Child named: Emilia
Sponsors: Anna Thiele of Bielsko and Ernest Tyrkowski (sp?)

These are the same parents of Julianna, born in 1864. They live in the same area: Bielsko.

Emilia Nörenberg – Confirmation

In the Lutheran Church, young persons confirm their baptism. After studying Luther’s Catechism and the Bible, confirmands publicly profess their faith.

For us seeking more information about Michael Nörenberg, this document verifies his move from Lublin to Volhynia.

1885 Lutheran Confirmation of Emilie Nöhrenberg³

Gleaned from this record:

April 21, 1885 at the Elisabethpol Congregation
Emilie Nöhrenberg
Daughter of Michael Nöhrenberg and his wife Louise née Ziemer
Residing [now] in Elisabethpol
Born 31 August 1866, baptized at the church in Lublin
Confirmand’s knowledge of reading, catechism and Holy Scriptures is good.

We know that by 1885, Michael Nörenberg was married to Louise (Schröder) Richert and living in Elisabethpol. Wilhelm Richert (Louise Schröder’s son) was in the same Confirmation Class with Emilie.

This is the same Michael!

Known children of Michael Nörenberg and Louise (Ziemer):

Juliane (1864- )
Emilie (1866- ), married Gottlieb Stachowski
Anna Christiana (1869- ), married Ludwig Weitz
Justine (1872-1881)
Herman (1876-1936), married Julianne Wolter
Wilhelmine (1879-1880)
Auguste (1881- )

Conclusions – Facts

Michael Nörenberg and Louise Ziemer married before July 8, 1864.

Michael and Louise (Ziemer) moved to Elisabethpol by May 31, 1881.⁴

Louise (Ziemer) Nörenberg died August 26, 1881 in Elisabethpol.⁵

What’s Next?

Search for additional information about Michael Nörenberg’s early life, his parents, his siblings, his birth location.
What about Konstantin Nörenberg’s mother, Louise Schröder, and her first marriage?
When Louise Schröder and her first husband arrive in Elisabethpol?

[edited 24 May 2024 to include all the children of Michael’s first marriage.]

SOURCES

1
Evangelical Church Lublin. Poland, Lublin, Lublin, Lublin, church records, 1835-1973. “Births, marriages, deaths (Akta urodzeń, małżeństw, zgonów) 1864.” https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-899H-Z97R-4?i=51&wc=QZW1-QXJ%3A1588932888%2C1588932897%2C1588932896%2C1589087947&cc=2564996, image 052. accessed April 14, 2024. Julianna Nörenberg, register #193. Translated by Monika Kucel of the Facebook Genealogical Translations Group. April 24, 2024.
2
Evangelical Church Lublin. Poland, Lublin, Lublin, Lublin, church records, 1835-1973. “Births Records 1864-1866.” https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99H-ZSS4-P?i=151&wc=QZW1-Q47%3A1588932888%2C1588932897%2C1588932896%2C1589087959&cc=2564996, image 152. accessed April 14, 2024. Emilia Nörenberg, register #311.
3
Elisabethpol, Rozyszcze Parish; Włodzimierz(Wołyń), Confirmation Records, Emilie Nöhrenberg, 21 April 1885, digital images, Archiwum Glowne Akt Dawnych (AGAD) The Central Archives of HistoricalRecords in Warsaw, http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2034/pages/PL_1_439_34_0191.htm. accessed 16 Jan 2022. Confirmation of Emilie Nöhrenberg, register #574.
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Evangelische Kirche. Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland). Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1833-1885. FamilySearch film # 004280637, image 25. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-67N9-HP2?i=24&cc=1469151&cat=667455. accessed April 30, 2024. Baptism/Birth of Auguste Nürnberg, register #495, page 300.
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Evangelische Kirche. Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland). Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1833-1885. FamilySearch film # 004280637, image 230. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-67N9-9P6?i=229&cc=1469151&cat=667455. accessed April 30, 2024. Death/Burial of Louise Nörenberg, register #665, page 505.

Author: Karrie Blees

Filed Under: Norenberg, Schröder